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Over Editing

Leeroy

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Hi all, I am new to photography I'm starting to get more involved and improve my skills.

Since I am in the design sector I have been using software such as Photoshop for some time now, however, because of this I feel like I have a tendency to over edit and do too much to my photos. This leads to problems sometimes for a number of reasons, such as noise, over-saturation and unrealistic results.

I'm interested to know what anyone else does to avoid this:

1. What checks do you do to see that you haven't unintentionally introduced noise and other problems into your photos?
2. How long do people spend post editing?
3. Because everyone's screens and monitors are different, how does everyone make sure their images are as neutral as possible?

Thanks.
 

Tracie B.

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To avoid it?.........I use a hammer and bash myself with it (often):D

Seriously though i am sure a fair few have this thought and really have to reign themselves in, but everyone sees things different when it comes to editing. some photos work well edited to an inch of their life, some don't. plus you can also put the 'ART' tag to it.

I find it hard as depending on an image, i actually like the arty farty edits so i can often go to town on them, give me a landscape or something though and that would be where i struggle.

Time... again image dependant for me.

The only thing i would try and do that i never used to was check though different times of the day because of light, it depends what you edit with as well, i only have a laptop which is the worst because the screen is movable obviously so will look different at any time.
 

hooferinsane

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Noise resides in the shadows, raising the shadows too much will introduce it, although you can reduce it using software such as the free Nik software, (define)
I have no set time to process a photo, just as long as each takes.
You need to calibrate your monitor, such as using 'datacolor spider calibration' in answer to your last question
 

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i tend to just keep an eye on what im doing. I try to ensure that my images look somewhat believable and in doing so it, means I don't take adjustments very far. I guess in general though its just a matter of paying attention to what your doing. zooming in every now and again to make sure the image is not degraded.

I also tend to avoid adjustments that are applied directly to the pixel layer as this does mess whit the file quality a lot. and instead use transparent or semi transparent adjustment layers. this also ensures a none destructive workflow, in that any adjustment I make can be reversed at any time.
 

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Hi Leeroy why not pop into the "who are you" and say hello and a little about yourself.
 

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Hi all, I am new to photography I'm starting to get more involved and improve my skills.

Since I am in the design sector I have been using software such as Photoshop for some time now, however, because of this I feel like I have a tendency to over edit and do too much to my photos. This leads to problems sometimes for a number of reasons, such as noise, over-saturation and unrealistic results.

I'm interested to know what anyone else does to avoid this:

1. What checks do you do to see that you haven't unintentionally introduced noise and other problems into your photos? G
2. How long do people spend post editing?
3. Because everyone's screens and monitors are different, how does everyone make sure their images are as neutral as possible?

Thanks.
1. image noise is generally not an issue if the exposure is correct...........some noise is inevitable and many times given to much importance.
2. As little time as possible seconds or on select images minutes.
3. I use a hardware colorimeter to calibrate my screen
 

Leeroy

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Thanks for all the replies.

Lady Tee I'll keep resort to that extreme as a last resort :D I shoot a lot of landscapes so I struggle from time to time too.

Hooferinsane, I've started to notice some of my earlier photos were very dark so brightening them up has created noise, probably too much to repair without taking too much detail out with noise reduction. I was hoping you weren't going to suggest a Spyder haha, but alas if that is the only way to be consistent.

Ramble vision, thanks I do tend to zoom in a lot to check the quality, I always seem to spot more discrepancies at a later date though, clearly not a keen enough eye.

Thanks rebel06 I'll remember to do that today.

Paulmag, I am starting to realise I've paid too much attention to the highlights tool in my camera and as a result some of the shadows do lack exposure. I need to seriously reduce my editing time to achieve something similar to your times!

Thanks.
 

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I edit until I like the photographs (heavy-ish on the colour side but that's how I like my photographs). I tend not to push the sliders to -100/+100 but max of -80/+80.

Using Lightroom I tend to spend 5-10 seconds per photograph, cropping mainly and if I use Photoshop it will usually be about a minute or so. I tend to spend around an hour per 100 photographs editing so 600 on a day's photography will mean six hours of developing, cropping mainly as I have a preset which works for 80% of my photographs. I make much use of the Previous and Sync buttons in Lightroom to speed up the processing.
 

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I find going back the next day with fresh eyes to look at an image often reveals anything I've overcooked. I aim for believeable realism in my landscapes even on the few I might spend hours on so a second look is well worthwhile.
 

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I find going back the next day with fresh eyes to look at an image...
Was going to say the same thing. I used to have a rule that I don't post anything unless it's been left for a day or two after editing. I've broken the rule a few times, posted a pic and then thought 'how did I miss that' when someone points out a few dust bunnies or botched dodging and burning.

Learning to read the camera's histogram onsite and checking for 'blinkies' can save a lot of bother at the editing stage as well.
 

Leeroy

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I tend to make the mistake of posting pictures too soon too :wacko: I used the same rule about waiting after I designed a tattoo for myself, ended up not wanting to get it done a week later! I suppose the best thing to do is remove potential variables; check histogram for blackouts and highlights, calibrate monitors properly to create a neutral editing environment, and go back to photos a day or two later to check them.
 
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